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And welcome to another edition of the Security Assessment Podcast.
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I am your host, Brandon, as always.
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I want to, first of all, folks, apologize for my voice today and the way I sound.
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He caught my daughter’s cold and I’m kind of getting over it, so my throat’s a little
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scratchy.
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So I do want to apologize for the…
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It’s not the audio, it’s my voice.
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So I do apologize for that today.
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Some big… couple of things I wanted to talk about.
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Real quickly, some big news as far as I’m concerned.
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Microsoft releases, officially releases, Copilot this week for Windows.
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And you can get it for… they have the free version you could use or you can get the paid
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version.
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$20 a month for personal, $30 if you want their pro version.
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And obviously if you’re in business, you have a $20 a month or $30 a month program as well.
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Microsoft really hoping… they sent in their earnings report call that this is going to
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be kind of a thing where they’re going to try to… they’ve kind of saturated the market
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with Office, but they’re hoping this is going to help them sell per seat.
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They’re hoping this is going to up the amount of money that people are spending.
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So Microsoft Copilot, pretty big thing.
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I have been messing with it.
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I know controversy has always surrounded it on GitHub.
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I really like it as a programmer, being able to have it as a copilot and really using it
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as, like I said, as a kind of a coding… something extra when I’m coding as a tool
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to help you if you get stuck or to help you if you have to do repetitive code over and
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over again or if you’re like me, not a great typist, just to have it.
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And it really does help.
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I know there has been some controversy about it because it did learn on all of GitHub’s
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code and some people saying, well, that code is… there’s been controversy about the licensing,
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how the copilot uses the code and some of that.
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But I do think it actually is going to be a big thing for people.
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And I’m sure it’s going to be integrated into many different security products if it isn’t
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already.
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And there’s just so many things that it can do.
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And like I said, I’ve seen it the other day.
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I was messing with it in Excel, all these kinds of things.
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So I do think it is something that is definitely going to be a tool that we’re all going to
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use as time progresses, going to get more and more popular.
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And just like I said, I’m just really excited to see where it goes.
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I actually…
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I’m not sure if I’m going to stay paying for…
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I will stay with paying $10 a month for GitHub, but I’m not sure if I’m going to…
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Well, I’ve been paying for the GitHub copilot for a while, but I’m not sure if I’m going
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to actually stay with it with…
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I don’t know if I use Excel and Word enough to justify $20 a month, but like I said, I
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might pay for chat GPT and just use that.
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I’m not sure yet.
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I’m still deciding what I’m going to do.
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But like I said, really big news as far as I’m concerned, because I think that’s going
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to be really huge going forward, especially with the search market and all that kind of
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stuff.
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So we’ll have to see.
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Also, two big news this week.
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I think Blue Sky opened up to everybody.
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Blue Sky is supposed to be like Twitter, but it’s decentralized.
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So I think it’s going to be like Mastodon to a certain degree and like Twitter to a
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certain degree as well.
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So I’ve messed with it a little bit, not a huge fan of it, but I thought that was pretty
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interesting that they opened up this week as well.
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Decked Dorsey saying his goal with this is that it’s going to be like Twitter, but decentralized.
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I think Mastodon is kind of onto that, but they have a little way to go yet.
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So we have to remain and see what happens with that going forward.
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Speaking of Check Dorsey, Square had a large outage the other day.
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They haven’t announced why it went down yet, but Square had a big outage.
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Didn’t affect us too much here.
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We’re very fortunate, but I know a lot of places were upset that Square was down.
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They couldn’t take credit card payments and stuff like that.
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So that is actually quite big news.
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And like I said, they got it back up.
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They’ve had outages before, but especially with credit card processing, the money they’re
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losing as well as the people that can’t take credit cards, it’s quite a big deal.
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So that was something that happened this week as well.
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I thought that was pretty important news.
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Also too, since we’re kind of going into the news already, that’s fine.
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Also news I thought was relevant.
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Disney has announced that they’re going to be cracking down on the password sharing.
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They’re doing this because they’re trying to do what Netflix is doing.
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They want to make sure people aren’t sharing passwords.
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That’s revenue loss.
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So they’re going to go ahead and start fighting that.
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I can’t stress enough to everybody that listens how important it is not to share your password
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to anything.
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I’ve said this a million times.
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People say all the time, “Well, I’m just sharing my password with them.”
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No, you should not share your password because the odds are a chance that password is going
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to be something that you’re using for something else.
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Now that person knows one of your passwords and it doesn’t take much for them to go ahead
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and try to get into other systems using that one password.
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The other problem is if that person should get compromised, now somebody has your password
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since you gave it to a friend.
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So I can’t stress it enough.
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I understand people are sharing passwords and logins should help somebody save some
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money.
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It’s great and it’s wonderful that you’re helping your friends.
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If you’re going to keep doing that, which you shouldn’t, but if you’re going to keep
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doing that, I strongly recommend you make it a weird generic password that you don’t
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use anywhere else.
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So at least if that does get compromised, you at least are safe.
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That person, if somebody does get that password, it’s like I said, a different password than
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you use for everything else.
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So very important.
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Make sure you, like I said, change your password.
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The other thing you could do if you do want to share password information for a service,
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you also, if you have to use a different email even, so that this way at least if the email
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gets compromised and the password gets compromised, it’s not your same username and password or
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your username and email or email and password combination.
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So it’s much, much safer.
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I strongly recommend that.
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Again, if you want to keep sharing your password information, that’s fine, but you should really
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at least be using a different password and even more so a different email address.
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So very, very important.
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Also too, I want to point out too, Apple did release an update today for iOS.
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A couple people had asked me about it.
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I just want to point that out.
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It is not actually a security update.
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It is actually a bug fix for a text prompt.
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So if you don’t get it, it’s not a big deal.
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It’s just a bug fix.
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It’s not a security update.
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So very important to know that.
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Another thing I wanted to point out is the security through obscurity.
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And the reason why I’m saying that is a very large bank in China called ICBC was hit by
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a ransomware attack the other day.
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And what surprised me in 2024, they are still using a novel network server.
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And this just astounded me because a novel network has long been not used in business.
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It’s still supported by a third party company as you can run it.
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It’s not like it’s completely obsolete yet.
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But what’s funny was this ransomware got loose in their system and when it got to one of
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their critical systems, the ransomware didn’t actually know what to do.
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It didn’t know how to affect the system because it was network.
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So I thought that was a little funny.
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Like I said, to me it was just funny that it’s kind of the old saying of security through
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obscurity.
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But like I said, it was pretty funny.
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Like I said, it nailed a lot of the workstations that were part of their system.
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But like I said, when it got to this, it had no idea what to do with the network server.
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So as much as I pick on them for running NetWare, it may have actually saved their systems because
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they weren’t able to get into their critical systems because they were still running NetWare.
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So I thought that was pretty funny.
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And anybody that’s listening right now that is a network guy, I’m sure you’re laughing
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because I was too when I read this, I was like, wait a minute, like NetWare in 2024?
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I can’t believe it.
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But for them, talk about luck.
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Like I said, that really saved them.
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So maybe that was the, maybe somebody had planned that.
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I’m sure somebody’s going to take credit for planning.
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If it wasn’t planned, I’m sure somebody’s going to take the credit for it.
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So I thought that was a pretty funny, pretty funny story.
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And like I said, it made me laugh.
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So I thought we’d go ahead and share that.
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Also big, I think the biggest news security news of the week was an article that was released
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from Slashdot here.
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A Chinese state sponsored hacking group known as Volt Typhoon has been living in the networks
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of some critical industries for at least five years.
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According to joint cybersecurity advisory issued by the US and its allies on Wednesday.
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The compromised environments are continents, are in the continents of the United States
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and elsewhere, including Guam and others.
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It was published in the US agencies that their security counterparts, Australia, Canada,
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the UK and New Zealand.
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The report comes weeks after the US officially announced that the operation to disrupt Volt
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Typhoon by deleting malware from thousands of internet connected devices across the country.
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Apparently they have been in systems for quite a while.
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The company, the hacker group has been targeting sectors like communication, energy, transportation
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and water systems.
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So which are, I mean, we all know critical parts of the economy.
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So I wanted to point that out.
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I got a lot of press.
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It definitely deserved it.
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State sponsored hacking is quite a big deal.
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And with everything, we’ve had some issues with China and some of that over the years.
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And it’s been five years, so it’s quite a while now.
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But I thought that was, I mean, in my opinion, that was the biggest news of the week.
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The other big story of the week, I really believe is that critical vulnerability that’s
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affecting most Linux distros.
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You know, that, I mean, it’s basically allowing for bot kits to get in.
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Linux developers are in the process of patching high severity vulnerability in certain cases
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that allows the installation of malware that runs at the firmware level.
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So they are in the process of working on that.
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The vulnerability did get tracked at CVE-2023-40547.
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You know, this is, it’s basically a buffer overflow attack is what it is, but it’s a
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coning bug that allows attackers to execute code of their choice.
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And like I said, when they affect it, it will actually be able to get into the bootkit.
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So they are working on this.
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I think the vulnerability resides kind of like I said, in the boot process to a certain
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degree.
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So it is pretty important.
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So I mean, and the scary part about this is even if you’re using secure boot, it could
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still be a problem.
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So secure boot, obviously the protection that’s built in the most modern computing devices,
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Windows, Linux, and Mac, obviously.
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You know, it’s a verified process, but apparently this thing is, you know, this is an exploit
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of that vulnerability attacks, you know, and actually lets you get, you know, right into
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that secure boot firmware.
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And that’s actually quite concerning.
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So like I said, they are working on that.
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Like I said, the, you have a CVE for it.
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And like I said, they are working on it.
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I would imagine the patch is coming, it’s going to be out soon.
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Looks like it’s tracked as 2023, even though it was, I mean, it was discovered fairly recently.
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So, but I guess it’s really being exploited now.
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So very important with that.
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Same thing with Log4j.
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I just saw an article this week, I don’t have it in the show notes, but I wanted to point
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that out that Log4j is still an issue because so many, I mean, you’re looking at, you know,
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you have, especially with Google was talking about that you have repositories that are
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six, seven levels down that still have not been patched for Log4j.
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So it’s very important when you’re using open source software that, you know, even though
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it is open source and stuff like that, but you got to make sure if you’re using these
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abandoned projects, you know, you definitely could, could have a serious issue, you know,
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with these unpatched vulnerabilities, especially something like Log4j and this too now.
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This shouldn’t be as bad because it’s not so many levels down, but if you’re using,
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you know, a fork of a fork of a fork, you know, you’re going to have to make sure that
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it’s patched.
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So very important.
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And I think those were the two real big news stories.
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But the other one that I felt was really big was the one that was released by TechCrunch
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and everybody picked it up.
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Government hackers targeting iPhone owners with zero day vulnerability.
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Apparently Google says that there are three unknown vulnerabilities in Apple’s iPhone
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offices that have not been patched and that Apple doesn’t know about them.
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And apparently there’s a European startup that’s working with the government just to
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help them exploit iPhones that they want to get into using these vulnerabilities.
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Like I said, according to Google, the government hackers took advantage of the three iPhone
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zero days, which are vulnerable to no, which are vulnerabilities not known to Apple.
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So that means that they weren’t reported.
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So Apple has not yet patched them.
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So this is why this is such kind of a big deal because as long as they keep making sure
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they’re not reported to Apple, they still have this exploit that they can use to get
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into the phones.
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So that’s why this is a big deal.
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Like I said, I don’t know if it was the biggest deal because they’re only doing it to phones
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they want, but if you’re one of the phones they want, it is a big deal.
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So but like I said, this is not the first time.
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This startup apparently has done stuff like this before.
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It was reported in 2002 and 2003.
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So like I said, this isn’t the first time they’ve done this, but it is kind of big news.
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Like I said, I have a serious problem when startups do this because I think it’s the
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security companies.
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I understand they’re providing a security service to the government by showing them
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how to get into these phones using, finding these zero days and then kind of saying, “Hey,
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we have this.
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We can help you.”
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I get it.
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I understand it, but I don’t particularly agree with the business model.
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I just don’t agree with it.
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I mean, Apple pays very, very well for security vulnerabilities.
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And what this is is probably the government is paying them a lot more than Apple is.
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And like I said, I really think I have a serious ethical issue with this, but I know this is
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what companies are doing now and I really don’t agree with it.
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But I thought that was another thing that I wanted to bring up that I did have it in
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my notes.
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I mean, it is a big deal just because the…
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To me, it’s a big deal because Apple doesn’t know about them and these companies, they
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have security features to define these holes and then they use these holes until they’re
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patched.
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And like I said, I don’t particularly agree with this.
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I know their businesses are doing this now, but to my opinion, it is borderline.
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Well, not borderline.
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It is unethical.
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It is, in my opinion, the government using loopholes.
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If any of us did this to people to steal data, we would be charged and we would be in so
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much trouble.
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But because the government’s doing it, it’s okay.
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And because this company is working with the government, they’re okay.
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I just think I have a serious problem with this because it does not put everybody in
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the same playing field.
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It would be like our company finding a security vulnerability and then trying to sell it to
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other businesses because they’re selling it to the government.
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It’s fine.
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I just have an issue, an ethical issue with this.
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I don’t agree with it.
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It disgusts me and maybe that’s why I was hesitant to bring it up on the podcast, but
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I just don’t agree with this.
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It gives hackers a bad name.
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It gives a lot of people just a bad name because the way they’re using this, I don’t like it.
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I find it very disturbing to me.
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I don’t agree with it.
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And our company would never do something like this.
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If we found a bug like this, we would immediately report it to Apple.
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We would not be reselling it.
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And I can’t just blame this company.
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There are other companies out there that do it as well.
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And I just have serious issues with it ethically, morally and everything else.
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And like I said, I don’t agree with it.
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And I apologize for getting a little upset here on the podcast, but I just definitely
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this really disturbs me as a security professional.
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So Verizon Wireless had a, and it got hit with a hack the other day that kind of the
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old saying, you know, the dangers within Verizon apparently had an internal employee that managed
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to breach their system.
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They actually, it was in an office in the main area.
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And the reason why, I mean, they didn’t announce it, but it is the main attorney general.
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So it has to be in Maine, at least I think.
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And Verizon discovered the breach December 12th of 2023.
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Nearly three months later, they determined it.
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Apparently they got names, physical addresses, social security numbers, gender, union affiliates,
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birth dates and compensation benefits.
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This seems to be actually Verizon’s employees information.
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And I’m not mistaken.
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It was actually, it doesn’t say it here, but another article I read had said that they
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were speculating that, here we go.
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An employee gained unauthorized access to a file containing sensitive employee information
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on September 21st, but they didn’t discover it until December 12th.
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So they had three months to get all that data together and get it out.
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But apparently, like I said, they have, I believe they have intent.
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I believe they have not referred, who is it?
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They haven’t released who it is yet, but they are on it.
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And like I said, but it’s been three months.
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That’s pretty bad.
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But like I said, it was an internal employee.
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And that’s why I brought this up because sometimes you have to be, sometimes, you know, we’re
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always trying to, as security professionals, we’re always trying to keep people from outside
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to coming in, but sometimes it’s the people inside we’ve got to worry about too.
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And that sometimes is a tough thing as a security professional.
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We’re always worried about what’s coming in from the internet, what’s coming in from the
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internet.
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Sometimes it’s the people that are already in your network that are the issue.
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And that was the case here.
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Also too, another thing I wanted to bring up only because JetBrains actually warned
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about this, and I do use JetBrains once in a while for some of my programming, but they
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are warning of a new TeamCity authority bypass vulnerability.
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JetBrains urged customers today to patch their TeamCity on-prem servers.
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Okay, so it’s an on-prem server issue, especially servers against a critical authentication
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bypass vulnerability that can let attackers take over vulnerable instances with admin
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privileges.
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It’s CVE 2024-23917.
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So if you do use, this is probably going to be most, probably most people are going to
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be developers.
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I know there’s a lot of people using this, it’s more of a developer-based kind of thing.
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But if you are using it, I strongly recommend that you patch immediately.
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So some news that I really wanted to bring up, just because it is relevant and important.
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Apple has released Apple Music, Apple TV, and then a third app, which is going to be
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their iPhone sync app for your computer.
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This is for Windows, obviously not for Mac.
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But the reason why I bring this up is Apple has announced that these are going to be the
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apps they’re going to use, and that they are going to be, they haven’t announced when,
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but they will be deprecating iTunes on the Windows PC.
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So this will eventually be, you know, will replace iTunes, which we’ve all been using
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on Windows for a while now.
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I don’t have, I mean, I’ve used it in the past, I haven’t used it in a while, but pretty
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important.
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So, there’s something to keep an eye on.
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If you get these new apps, you can go ahead and uninstall iTunes.
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And like I said, the reason why I’m bringing that up is because as iTunes gets deprecated,
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they won’t be patching it.
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And you know, they will, I mean, it’s deprecated, it’s not officially gone yet.
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But like I said, you know, it says right here, after you download the Apple Music app, Apple
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TV app, and the Apple Devices app, which is the one I’m talking about that you use for
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syncing and all that on your phone, you won’t see your music or video content in iTunes.
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So this is pretty big, and you can’t use iTunes to mainly sync or manage your phone or iPad
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anymore.
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It must go through the Apple Devices app.
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However, you can use iTunes to access only your podcasts and audiobooks.
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So I think eventually they’re going to release an audiobook app, and then iTunes will be
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completely deprecated eventually.
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But as of right now, once you install those three apps, iTunes will only do your podcasts
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and your audiobooks.
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My feeling is that they will eventually release an audiobooks app for iTunes, and probably
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eventually the Apple Podcasts app will go ahead and come to Windows.
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I don’t know a ton of people that are using those services on Windows, but Apple is in
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the services business, and they do need to go where customers are, and Microsoft does
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have over two billion people on Windows, so they have to accommodate that.
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But very important to keep an eye on this, because this will mean that eventually iTunes
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won’t be patched, and you could have a piece of software on your device that is vulnerable.
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So very, very important just to know that.
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And I also think it’s cool too that years ago, if you remember, Apple refused to put
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iTunes on Windows, and then eventually somebody talked to Steve Jobs and said, “Listen, if
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we want the iPod to take off, we have to put it on Windows,” because Windows at that time
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was the biggest, and it still is the biggest desktop platform by far.
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Apple only has, I think they said about 125, 150 million PCs out there compared to Microsoft’s
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two, I think over two billion.
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So plus Microsoft too also has the Xbox and stuff like that.
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So it is very important to understand that Microsoft does have a much bigger computing
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platform, but again, they also have people that work.
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They also have the people that work, the people that have at home, and it’s a little bit different.
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But like I said, it’s nice to see Apple saying, “Hey, even though these people aren’t using
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Macs, they’re using Windows machines, we still should really cater to our customers who want
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to use our services.”
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So definitely a different Apple than it was under the Jobs era.
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But like I said, as far as security-wise goes, it is important to be careful as the, like
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I said, and that goes for any app.
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I see people all the time that have outdated software on their computer, like Java and
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stuff, and that is how people get hacked.
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So very important.
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One of the things, the other thing I do want to bring up, a couple of, this is kind of
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interesting.
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Earlier in the week, Apple had an issue with the Vision Pro, their new product that we
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just talked about that they released last week.
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And if you’ve got your password, you had to actually go to the Apple store to get it fixed.
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Apparently Apple has fixed this issue now, and you can reset your password on the Vision
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Pro.
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This was a story that was earlier than we, I think it was Monday or Tuesday came out
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that you couldn’t reset your password, and now you can.
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They fixed it, like I said, I think it was Wednesday or Thursday, they released an update.
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So it was a story that I had in the show notes, kind of fixed at this point, but it was pretty
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funny.
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People were like very upset that they could not reset their password on Vision Pro.
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And we’ll have to see what happens with the Vision Pro security-wise.
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And the reason why I say that, is you remember Apple, the iPhone started with the Touch ID,
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then obviously with the iPhone X, we went to Face ID.
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And now with the, you know, with their new headset, they actually now have Retina ID.
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I would be very curious to see if Apple will eventually move to Retina ID on other devices.
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I don’t know if they will or if they won’t.
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We still do not have Face ID on the new Macs.
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I thought for sure that would be something by now, but we’re still using Touch ID.
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Again, we’re going to have to see what Apple does with this, because this is where they
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were in a very interesting phase here, because I really thought that by this point Face ID
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would be on the Macs.
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We have Windows Hello, but we don’t have Face ID on the Mac.
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So I thought that was weird.
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But again, I do think it’s very important to point out to everybody, and I say this
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all the time, and I mean no disrespect to anybody that’s on a Mac, because I’m a Mac
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user myself, but you have to understand they have 100,000, 125,000, 150,000, I’m sorry,
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125 million, 150 million Macs out in the world.
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Apple has over a billion iPhones in the world.
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So what Apple has in phones, Microsoft has in desktops.
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You know, Microsoft will always favor the desktop market because they have so many users
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on it.
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Same thing goes, like I said, with Apple.
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They are always going to favor their iPhones and iPads over their Macs just because they
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have so many more people on them.
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Apple is still, whether they will limit it or not, is still really the iPhone company.
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Just because, I mean, don’t get me wrong, they care about their Macs.
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It’s a couple billion dollar a quarter business.
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But when you look at Mac sales versus iPhone and iPad sales, they definitely are still
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the iPhone company.
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And I don’t take anything away from them.
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The same thing with Microsoft.
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They are still the Windows and Microsoft Office company.
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Even though they have Xbox, they have other things, those two are still their cash cows.
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And the same thing goes for Apple.
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So Apple is very slow to adopt these things from their phones to their computers because
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it’s just one of those things like, okay, we want to do this, but it’s going to affect
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such a small amount of our user base compared to doing something on the iPhone.
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00:28:20,220 –> 00:28:25,340
So it’s just one of those things, unfortunately, where you just go where the majority of your
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00:28:25,340 –> 00:28:26,340
customers are.
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00:28:26,340 –> 00:28:36,700
And by far, by double, triple, quadruple, it’s 10 times almost what the iPhone has user
443
00:28:36,700 –> 00:28:38,420
base compared to the Macs.
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00:28:38,420 –> 00:28:40,180
It’s just the way it is.
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00:28:40,180 –> 00:28:41,180
Not taking it away from Apple.
446
00:28:41,180 –> 00:28:46,420
They make great computers, but I’m just saying they are just going to favor their cash cow
447
00:28:46,420 –> 00:28:49,740
markets versus their other markets.
448
00:28:49,740 –> 00:28:51,740
That’s just the way it is.
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00:28:51,740 –> 00:28:56,180
Some other interesting news that I also found, by the way, I wanted to bring this up.
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00:28:56,180 –> 00:29:00,380
Mozilla announced today that they are getting a new CEO.
451
00:29:00,380 –> 00:29:05,620
Somebody from their current CEO who’s been with the company for 25 years is stepping
452
00:29:05,620 –> 00:29:09,100
down and somebody else from the board is taking over.
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00:29:09,100 –> 00:29:13,140
Not really going to affect probably Mozilla too much, but let’s just wait and see.
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00:29:13,140 –> 00:29:15,020
But I thought that was interesting news.
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00:29:15,020 –> 00:29:16,820
Mozilla, I really like Mozilla.
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00:29:16,820 –> 00:29:22,640
I tell everybody to use Mozilla just because they are a security first browser.
457
00:29:22,640 –> 00:29:23,640
Very important to me.
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00:29:23,640 –> 00:29:27,540
And I tell everybody, use Mozilla if you can.
459
00:29:27,540 –> 00:29:31,460
I push everybody that way and I apologize to them if I feel like I’m preaching it.
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00:29:31,460 –> 00:29:34,300
I don’t get paid by Mozilla to make this announcement.
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00:29:34,300 –> 00:29:39,100
It’s just they are very security conscious and very much put the user first.
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00:29:39,100 –> 00:29:42,580
And I really, that and like a signal, any of those companies that put users first, I
463
00:29:42,580 –> 00:29:44,740
really appreciate.
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00:29:44,740 –> 00:29:48,240
But Mozilla obviously does have to make some revenue and they have announced today that
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their Mozilla Monitoring Plus, which scrubs the internet for personal information from
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00:29:54,780 –> 00:29:57,480
the web for free.
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00:29:57,480 –> 00:30:01,740
They have announced that they are having a new $9 per month service called Mozilla Monitor
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00:30:01,740 –> 00:30:05,900
Plus and this will automatically scrub for you.
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00:30:05,900 –> 00:30:09,420
So it would tell you where your stuff works and you would have to actually manually go
470
00:30:09,420 –> 00:30:11,760
and do it and do the work yourselves.
471
00:30:11,760 –> 00:30:15,820
Now for $9 a month it will go do the work for you.
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00:30:15,820 –> 00:30:20,560
Again if you don’t, I know we’re all in subscription fatigue, but if you want to keep your stuff
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00:30:20,560 –> 00:30:23,360
off the internet this would be worth $9 a month.
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00:30:23,360 –> 00:30:27,700
If you want to do it for free that’s fine, you just have to do all the manual work.
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00:30:27,700 –> 00:30:29,180
So very important.
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00:30:29,180 –> 00:30:31,160
I wanted to bring that up because it is a service.
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00:30:31,160 –> 00:30:33,060
I do tell people to use.
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00:30:33,060 –> 00:30:38,320
I would recommend if you do know somebody who is not the most tech savvy person, it
479
00:30:38,320 –> 00:30:41,560
may actually be the right step.
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00:30:41,560 –> 00:30:46,740
Maybe it’s the kind of person that your grandmother or your mom who’s not overly tech savvy say,
481
00:30:46,740 –> 00:30:50,220
“Hey, maybe it’s worth the $9 a month for you if you’re worried about your security.”
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00:30:50,220 –> 00:30:54,180
If it’s somebody like us who can handle all the technical stuff, you do it yourself.
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00:30:54,180 –> 00:30:58,460
So I thought that was really interesting and really important and I just wanted to bring
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00:30:58,460 –> 00:30:59,460
that up.
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00:30:59,460 –> 00:31:04,580
So speaking of open source by the way, something else I wanted to point out.
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00:31:04,580 –> 00:31:10,300
Apple today or this week announced that it is launching a new open source programming
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00:31:10,300 –> 00:31:13,180
language that’s called PKL.
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00:31:13,180 –> 00:31:17,340
Now I was going to confuse PKI because I confuse those myself too.
489
00:31:17,340 –> 00:31:19,220
I was like, “Wait, don’t we already have this?”
490
00:31:19,220 –> 00:31:27,100
But no, it launched February 1 of 2024 with Hinta version 0.25.
491
00:31:27,100 –> 00:31:33,300
It’s going to be used, it’s designed around a key value structure in the main system.
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00:31:33,300 –> 00:31:37,620
I’m not going to get too techy into it, but they have launched this and what basically
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00:31:37,620 –> 00:31:43,300
the goal of this is, it’s supposed to be an embedded configuration language hoping to
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00:31:43,300 –> 00:31:49,960
take the stress out of the small to large or simple to complex, ad hoc to repetitive
495
00:31:49,960 –> 00:31:52,560
configurations tasks.
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00:31:52,560 –> 00:31:55,620
So go look into it more if you’re interested.
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00:31:55,620 –> 00:31:58,860
I’m actually not overly interested in this.
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00:31:58,860 –> 00:32:03,040
I know a couple of people I know on Twitter that were talking about it.
499
00:32:03,040 –> 00:32:09,140
They said it’s very nice, it’s very simple, easy to use, it’s good for simple stuff.
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00:32:09,140 –> 00:32:11,220
It is actually on GitHub if you want to go ahead and look at the code.
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00:32:11,220 –> 00:32:15,340
Like I said, I just wanted to bring that up because they have open source another programming
502
00:32:15,340 –> 00:32:16,340
language.
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00:32:16,340 –> 00:32:20,100
So kind of interesting, thought it was really cool.
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00:32:20,100 –> 00:32:26,760
And also too, I wanted to bring up another thing that was like, they’ve been very taken
505
00:32:26,760 –> 00:32:30,500
care of it, but it was on bleeping computers, so it’s worth noting it.
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00:32:30,500 –> 00:32:33,820
Mastodon had a vulnerability that has those hackers to take over accounts.
507
00:32:33,820 –> 00:32:36,300
Like I said, that was very late last week, early this week.
508
00:32:36,300 –> 00:32:38,020
I think we were ready to record the podcast.
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00:32:38,020 –> 00:32:44,060
It’s already been taken care of CVE 2024-23832.
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00:32:44,060 –> 00:32:51,580
And like I said, it stems from insufficient origin validation to Mastodon, allowing attackers
511
00:32:51,580 –> 00:32:52,580
to take over accounts.
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00:32:52,580 –> 00:32:59,500
The reason why I brought it up, it was rated 9.4, which is kind of why I brought it up.
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00:32:59,500 –> 00:33:04,000
It impacts all Mastodon versions before 3.5.17.
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00:33:04,000 –> 00:33:09,540
So if you are running your own Mastodon server, go ahead and patch it.
515
00:33:09,540 –> 00:33:15,580
The flaw was fixed, like I said, in 4.2.5 released a couple days ago.
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00:33:15,580 –> 00:33:19,780
So just go ahead and up your new version.
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00:33:19,780 –> 00:33:25,420
Like I said, it’s the version before 3.5.17.
518
00:33:25,420 –> 00:33:29,300
So if you’re on 4, you should be okay.
519
00:33:29,300 –> 00:33:31,460
But I would upgrade to the latest version anyway.
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00:33:31,460 –> 00:33:38,140
Like I said, it’s already been patched, but like I said, that was late last week where
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00:33:38,140 –> 00:33:39,140
they talked about it.
522
00:33:39,140 –> 00:33:42,700
I just wanted to bring it up because I know a bunch of us here run our own Mastodon instances.
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00:33:42,700 –> 00:33:46,060
One thing that’s nice, if you’re on something like Masthope or something like that, one
524
00:33:46,060 –> 00:33:50,320
of those hosted platforms, you actually can’t patch it for you.
525
00:33:50,320 –> 00:33:54,300
So I thought that was, that’s one of the nice parts about having hosted solutions.
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00:33:54,300 –> 00:33:56,180
You know, it does it for you.
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00:33:56,180 –> 00:34:00,720
So by the way, I wanted to point, the other thing that was on bleeping computer, which
528
00:34:00,720 –> 00:34:05,660
caught my attention again late last week, it didn’t make the podcast because I had recorded
529
00:34:05,660 –> 00:34:12,460
it by the time, but Clorox said they had a cyber attack caused 49 million in expenses.
530
00:34:12,460 –> 00:34:13,460
Unbelievable.
531
00:34:13,460 –> 00:34:19,620
I mean, I mean, they have, sure they have insurance, probably cyber insurance, but like
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00:34:19,620 –> 00:34:28,820
I said, it affected 8,700 employees and almost 7.5 billion in revenue last year for the company.
533
00:34:28,820 –> 00:34:32,980
And they got hacked on August 11th.
534
00:34:32,980 –> 00:34:36,620
And it actually, like I said, they actually, they’re not saying what it was, but they were
535
00:34:36,620 –> 00:34:43,020
saying that when they reported their final, their earnings for last year, they had said
536
00:34:43,020 –> 00:34:47,360
that they had a big loss because of this cyber attack.
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00:34:47,360 –> 00:34:52,980
So like I said, it cost the company, you know, quite a bit of money.
538
00:34:52,980 –> 00:34:57,220
Remember Johnson Controls had a hack like that a couple months, it was a couple months
539
00:34:57,220 –> 00:34:59,980
ago that took their whole systems down.
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00:34:59,980 –> 00:35:02,400
So you know, these cyber attacks are big.
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00:35:02,400 –> 00:35:05,600
They affect companies, they cost companies money.
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00:35:05,600 –> 00:35:09,720
And like I said, a lot of these companies have cyber insurance, but it’s just important
543
00:35:09,720 –> 00:35:13,000
to be aware of it.
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00:35:13,000 –> 00:35:17,820
One thing I do want to talk about with Windows anyway, Microsoft has announced that they
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00:35:17,820 –> 00:35:21,940
are bringing the Linux pseudo command to Windows server.
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00:35:21,940 –> 00:35:26,940
That was big news again late last week, but I just want to bring that up because Microsoft
547
00:35:26,940 –> 00:35:30,360
is, I mean, definitely a different Microsoft guys than it was years ago.
548
00:35:30,360 –> 00:35:33,360
I know for a fact Microsoft used to be anti Linux.
549
00:35:33,360 –> 00:35:38,580
Now pretty much the majority of servers on Azure are Linux, but, and obviously you have
550
00:35:38,580 –> 00:35:42,780
the sub, you know, the Android subsystem for Windows and the Android subsystem for Linux.
551
00:35:42,780 –> 00:35:47,300
But Microsoft now says they’re bringing the Linux pseudo command feature to Windows 20,
552
00:35:47,300 –> 00:35:52,400
Windows server 2025 offering a new way for people to elevate themselves.
553
00:35:52,400 –> 00:35:54,080
So I thought that was interesting.
554
00:35:54,080 –> 00:35:57,960
They’re testing it and it’s going to be in an insider preview.
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00:35:57,960 –> 00:36:00,040
So that was a big news.
556
00:36:00,040 –> 00:36:03,440
It really is news for Microsoft, see Microsoft embracing the open source and Linux.
557
00:36:03,440 –> 00:36:08,360
It definitely is a different company than it was under Balmer or Gates.
558
00:36:08,360 –> 00:36:11,520
And I mean, I think at the time they were the right CEOs, but now with open source being
559
00:36:11,520 –> 00:36:16,040
what it is and stuff like that, you know, adapt or adapt or die, right?
560
00:36:16,040 –> 00:36:17,360
Some news out of Denmark.
561
00:36:17,360 –> 00:36:20,960
And the only reason why I’m bringing this up is this is quite interesting.
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00:36:20,960 –> 00:36:25,320
Denmark ordered schools to stop sending student data to Google.
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00:36:25,320 –> 00:36:29,760
Danish, I wonder if this is really important because a lot of school districts in America
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00:36:29,760 –> 00:36:32,240
use Google workspace.
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00:36:32,240 –> 00:36:37,840
Danish data protection authority has issued an injunction regarding student data being
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00:36:37,840 –> 00:36:43,640
funneled through Google using Chromebook and Google workspaces in schools.
567
00:36:43,640 –> 00:36:50,160
The matter was brought up by an agency stating that kids being, one, they don’t think it’s
568
00:36:50,160 –> 00:36:53,840
right that young kids data is going out onto the internet.
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00:36:53,840 –> 00:37:05,520
They’re saying that Google is analyzing documents with personal data on them, allowing Google
570
00:37:05,520 –> 00:37:10,280
to build a profile on kids before they’re even of age to understand what it is.
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00:37:10,280 –> 00:37:14,680
They were announced that they must cease the transfer of personal data to Google for specific
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00:37:14,680 –> 00:37:18,240
purposes.
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00:37:18,240 –> 00:37:22,440
They want to ensure that Google refrains from processing the data and building profiles
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00:37:22,440 –> 00:37:23,920
on kids and stuff like that.
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00:37:23,920 –> 00:37:31,400
Like I said, it’s actually pretty big news because there is no on-prem version of Google
576
00:37:31,400 –> 00:37:35,480
workspace like there is with Microsoft and SharePoint and stuff like that.
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00:37:35,480 –> 00:37:38,000
So this is actually pretty big news.
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00:37:38,000 –> 00:37:42,800
Like I said, it’s one of those things where, you know, they want to, I get what they’re
579
00:37:42,800 –> 00:37:43,800
trying to do.
580
00:37:43,800 –> 00:37:47,480
They’re trying to say, well, Google workspace for education, Chrome OS, Chrome, all that’s
581
00:37:47,480 –> 00:37:48,480
gathering data.
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00:37:48,480 –> 00:37:51,120
They’re building profiles on these kids when the kids are in kindergarten, first grade,
583
00:37:51,120 –> 00:37:52,600
second grade, they don’t understand.
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00:37:52,600 –> 00:37:55,680
They have no way of knowing what’s going to happen later on down the road.
585
00:37:55,680 –> 00:37:58,440
So I mean, it’s a really tough, tough thing.
586
00:37:58,440 –> 00:38:05,280
I have been saying this for a while, but again, it’s a tough thing because the problem is,
587
00:38:05,280 –> 00:38:14,080
is Google is a much lower cost in the door than Windows or Mac.
588
00:38:14,080 –> 00:38:18,520
Obviously iPads, obviously, you know, the iPad could last a kid, you know, his whole
589
00:38:18,520 –> 00:38:22,960
career because Apple really, you know, has let the iPad, you know, kid may only need
590
00:38:22,960 –> 00:38:27,940
two iPads over the course of his entire 13 years or three where a Chromebook is every
591
00:38:27,940 –> 00:38:29,640
three or four years yet to replace it.
592
00:38:29,640 –> 00:38:33,920
But Chromebook is also like 200 bucks compared to an iPad.
593
00:38:33,920 –> 00:38:41,080
So you know, that’s how Google kind of got in the door with these sorts of things because,
594
00:38:41,080 –> 00:38:45,120
you know, a Chromebook is, you know, 200 bucks and then, you know, three years place, you
595
00:38:45,120 –> 00:38:49,600
know, 200 bucks, 200 dollar device and then the kids has now, now it’s been in service
596
00:38:49,600 –> 00:38:50,600
for eight years.
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00:38:50,600 –> 00:38:54,080
Whereas an iPad, you know, you’re looking at, we got to lay out five, six, $700.
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00:38:54,080 –> 00:38:56,160
So that’s kind of how Google got in the door.
599
00:38:56,160 –> 00:39:01,520
But and then two windows machines, you know, are expensive to, you know, they’re looking
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00:39:01,520 –> 00:39:04,560
at, well, windows machines, you got to maintain it.
601
00:39:04,560 –> 00:39:07,680
You got to upgrade it where the Chromebook was simple and easy.
602
00:39:07,680 –> 00:39:11,880
I mean it, I mean, both, both platforms do have their advantage.
603
00:39:11,880 –> 00:39:17,960
I will say that, but I guess what they’re saying now is, you know, it’s getting, I kind
604
00:39:17,960 –> 00:39:19,360
of get what they’re saying.
605
00:39:19,360 –> 00:39:23,060
It’s, it’s, you’re, you’re building profiles on kids and they don’t even understand what
606
00:39:23,060 –> 00:39:26,760
they’re sharing or what they’re sharing and how they’re sharing and they’re, I mean, it
607
00:39:26,760 –> 00:39:30,240
is, it is a pretty interesting topic.
608
00:39:30,240 –> 00:39:35,320
I’ve always said to, I don’t understand how Google gets around the whole, you know, you’re
609
00:39:35,320 –> 00:39:38,720
not 13, you’re, so you’re not supposed to have an account on the internet, but yet they
610
00:39:38,720 –> 00:39:43,920
get around it because it’s their workspace product or their education product or, you
611
00:39:43,920 –> 00:39:46,840
know, the years of, okay, well kids can’t be on the internet till they’re a certain
612
00:39:46,840 –> 00:39:47,840
age.
613
00:39:47,840 –> 00:39:51,560
Well, Chromebook is always connected and Google specifically collects everything in the cloud
614
00:39:51,560 –> 00:39:53,600
so that they can have it, analyze it, look at it.
615
00:39:53,600 –> 00:39:56,520
I mean, it’s, it’s definitely a controversial topic.
616
00:39:56,520 –> 00:40:01,760
I’m not saying I don’t, I don’t necessarily disagree with Denmark personally, but unfortunately
617
00:40:01,760 –> 00:40:04,320
it’s the way it is in America.
618
00:40:04,320 –> 00:40:09,320
And I don’t think Google has gotten a big foothold in America and muscled out Microsoft.
619
00:40:09,320 –> 00:40:13,020
You remember when I was younger growing up, everybody had Microsoft windows and those
620
00:40:13,020 –> 00:40:15,600
kids were conditioned to be Microsoft’s future customers.
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00:40:15,600 –> 00:40:16,600
That worked out.
622
00:40:16,600 –> 00:40:20,040
Well now Google’s saying, well, if we do this, those people will be our future customers.
623
00:40:20,040 –> 00:40:24,640
You know, it’s, it’s, you know, it’s the same reason why Apple’s trying to keep iPhones
624
00:40:24,640 –> 00:40:28,800
in schools and stuff like that because they want kids to learn iOS so that they become
625
00:40:28,800 –> 00:40:30,800
future customers.
626
00:40:30,800 –> 00:40:33,160
It’s just, you know, it’s conditioning, man.
627
00:40:33,160 –> 00:40:35,040
It’s just the way it is.
628
00:40:35,040 –> 00:40:38,480
The other thing I think this is the last funny story I want to bring up, and this will be
629
00:40:38,480 –> 00:40:41,320
the last news story of the week.
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00:40:41,320 –> 00:40:47,360
Apparently there was a 3 million electric two buses were used in a DDoS attack.
631
00:40:47,360 –> 00:40:52,120
Apparently the news site announced that a cyber security firm for tonight, fortunate,
632
00:40:52,120 –> 00:40:57,120
excuse me, said three million electrocute buses were infected with Java malware and
633
00:40:57,120 –> 00:41:01,000
were used to conduct a DDoS attack against a Swiss company.
634
00:41:01,000 –> 00:41:07,080
Um, again, any internet connected device can be used as a weapon.
635
00:41:07,080 –> 00:41:10,720
Uh, it’s the same thing like the refrigerators that were being used.
636
00:41:10,720 –> 00:41:15,000
Uh, remember in a DDoS attack a while back, this is a very similar thing.
637
00:41:15,000 –> 00:41:18,320
So it’s made funny that it’s electric toothbrushes.
638
00:41:18,320 –> 00:41:20,680
So I thought that was really funny.
639
00:41:20,680 –> 00:41:24,840
And uh, you know, like I said, any internet connected device can be used as a weapon folks.
640
00:41:24,840 –> 00:41:30,980
Like it’s just, you know, if somebody can hack it, somebody can, uh, can use it as a
641
00:41:30,980 –> 00:41:31,980
bot.
642
00:41:31,980 –> 00:41:33,260
But I thought it was funny.
643
00:41:33,260 –> 00:41:38,520
It was three, it was three million electric toothbrushes.
644
00:41:38,520 –> 00:41:40,080
That’s just hysterical.
645
00:41:40,080 –> 00:41:44,780
Um, shows you that you should, you know, not be using Java.
646
00:41:44,780 –> 00:41:49,160
And uh, what’s even more funny is they, uh, when they were testing these things, they
647
00:41:49,160 –> 00:41:55,080
found that most of the toothbrushes were using default passwords and default, um, all the
648
00:41:55,080 –> 00:41:56,080
defaults were set.
649
00:41:56,080 –> 00:42:01,820
Yeah, because who the heck thinks that, you know, who thinks to change the password on
650
00:42:01,820 –> 00:42:02,820
their toothbrush?
651
00:42:02,820 –> 00:42:04,820
I mean, think about it.
652
00:42:04,820 –> 00:42:07,940
Uh, you know, and this is what the tweets out of this story were great.
653
00:42:07,940 –> 00:42:10,460
Somebody was like, somebody was like, what is wrong with people?
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There’s no details.
655
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Like who, who is the target of the DDoS?
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What happened?
657
00:42:15,600 –> 00:42:16,600
What brand of toothbrushes?
658
00:42:16,600 –> 00:42:19,640
Uh, you know, people are like, I don’t understand this.
659
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This is why would somebody hijack somebody’s toothbrush?
660
00:42:22,420 –> 00:42:24,740
I mean, it was just, some of these were funny.
661
00:42:24,740 –> 00:42:27,780
I mean, again, they haven’t released much of it yet.
662
00:42:27,780 –> 00:42:31,840
Uh, the devices, I’m sure there’s going to be an update for the devices to patch them.
663
00:42:31,840 –> 00:42:35,660
But um, you know, it’s just hysterical.
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Uh, it’s just unbelievable.
665
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I just, it’s funny.
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00:42:39,660 –> 00:42:43,260
I mean, uh, toothbrushes, you know, it’s just, you always get that one story of the week
667
00:42:43,260 –> 00:42:44,260
that always makes you laugh.
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And uh, here you are brushing your teeth and meanwhile you’re, uh, you’re DDoSing somebody.
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So I thought that was pretty funny.
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That along with the, uh, the, uh, the novel one, uh, my opinion were the two best stories
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of the week this week as far as funny goes.
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00:42:58,060 –> 00:42:59,820
Um, I do want to point out folks as well.
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00:42:59,820 –> 00:43:03,420
Uh, I do want to get to one thing here before we get to the end of the show.
674
00:43:03,420 –> 00:43:04,620
Uh, listener feedback.
675
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I cleaned out the mailbag today.
676
00:43:07,220 –> 00:43:09,140
I do appreciate all listener feedback.
677
00:43:09,140 –> 00:43:12,260
A bunch of people that they really like to show.
678
00:43:12,260 –> 00:43:13,980
Shows really well, well done.
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00:43:13,980 –> 00:43:16,420
Uh, most, most comments pretty positive.
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00:43:16,420 –> 00:43:19,140
Um, I will say that, but I do appreciate the feedback.
681
00:43:19,140 –> 00:43:22,660
Again, it’ll be in the show notes, brandon@lepaniesecurity.com.
682
00:43:22,660 –> 00:43:23,660
Send in all your information.
683
00:43:23,660 –> 00:43:24,900
That’s the best way to reach me.
684
00:43:24,900 –> 00:43:30,340
Um, and I will go ahead and take care of trying to get as much as I can on the show.
685
00:43:30,340 –> 00:43:35,740
Uh, somebody had pointed out to me that the co-pilot, so we talked about co-pilot last
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week.
687
00:43:36,740 –> 00:43:41,780
We talked about it again this week, but a co-pilot does not run on Firefox.
688
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Only chromium based.
689
00:43:43,260 –> 00:43:47,100
Uh, the chat GPT though works on Mac and Firefox.
690
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So they want to play on them.
691
00:43:48,100 –> 00:43:55,380
Microsoft co-pilot, if you’re going to use co-pilot by co-pilot, it does not run on Firefox.
692
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Only chat GPT does.
693
00:43:56,620 –> 00:43:59,540
And chat GPT also works on the Mac and Firefox.
694
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I will say, I do know that chat GPT is much more cross platform.
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Uh, obviously Microsoft’s not really that worried.
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I do know office for the Mac does have co-pilot, but Microsoft obviously not as worried about
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bringing co-pilot to the Mac desktop because it’s their co-pilot.
698
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They want you to use Windows.
699
00:44:16,980 –> 00:44:21,380
Um, but chat, if you do want to spend $20 a month, chat GPT does work on all platforms.
700
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It’s more cross platform.
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00:44:22,660 –> 00:44:26,880
So a very, very important that.
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Also too, somebody had pointed out to me, and I did want to bring this up on the show
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because I felt it was really important.
704
00:44:32,460 –> 00:44:40,100
Um, if you go to Microsoft OneNote, uh, it actually comes up with a message that said,
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this browser has no longer supported.
706
00:44:42,860 –> 00:44:49,900
Um, kind of implying that Microsoft is very focused on edge and chromium based browsers
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and really doesn’t care about Firefox anymore.
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00:44:51,980 –> 00:44:56,660
Um, I do notice that some other people have pointed out too, that certain things, uh,
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don’t work in Firefox.
710
00:44:58,100 –> 00:45:03,500
Um, certain sites, um, you know, that, and unfortunately that’s just the way it is.
711
00:45:03,500 –> 00:45:10,640
Firefox is, uh, definitely the, the smaller, and unfortunately if you are using the smaller,
712
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less known browser, you’re going to run into issues like this.
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Most of the companies now are focused on the chromium based browsers.
714
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Um, the only thing I can recommend to you if you, if this is a problem for you, um,
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is to go ahead and use Brave, which is a security focused browser, but it is built on chromium.
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So that is the only option I would recommend, but I am glad somebody pointed that out and
717
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I really do appreciate that.
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Um, like I said, if you are, if you do have to use a chromium based browser and some people
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do, um, like I said, I recommend using Brave if you can.
720
00:45:42,300 –> 00:45:45,520
Um, also too, I didn’t want to, nobody else put this into me.
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We were talking about hard drives and stuff like that.
722
00:45:48,240 –> 00:45:55,480
Um, I, I didn’t get a chance to really too much dig into it, but a recent report declared
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that the quality of, of actual micro SDs and USB sticks and stuff like that, uh, are actually
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on the decline.
725
00:46:07,220 –> 00:46:11,980
They’re saying that they’re finding that, that USB sticks and micro SDs are becoming
726
00:46:11,980 –> 00:46:13,620
less and less reliable.
727
00:46:13,620 –> 00:46:16,220
Uh, so I thought that was really interesting.
728
00:46:16,220 –> 00:46:18,420
Um, I have talked about Spinrite a few times.
729
00:46:18,420 –> 00:46:22,280
I know Steve Gibson over on Twit, uh, does the security now podcast.
730
00:46:22,280 –> 00:46:23,280
He creates it.
731
00:46:23,280 –> 00:46:25,820
It is, I think it is one of the best hard drive recovery tools.
732
00:46:25,820 –> 00:46:27,860
I actually do buy a copy of it.
733
00:46:27,860 –> 00:46:29,980
Um, I think I’m, I’m thinking I have six right now.
734
00:46:29,980 –> 00:46:34,700
I didn’t get his latest version, but I did get six and, uh, it is a really great, you
735
00:46:34,700 –> 00:46:35,780
can use it on drives.
736
00:46:35,780 –> 00:46:36,780
It works on solid states.
737
00:46:36,780 –> 00:46:41,380
It works on all stuff and, uh, it will work on jump drives and, and SD cards and stuff
738
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like that.
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So, um, go ahead and use that.
740
00:46:43,980 –> 00:46:49,580
I do understand that a lot of the quality, unfortunately, of these, these sticks and
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00:46:49,580 –> 00:46:52,540
stuff is all going to be made in a cheaply in places.
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And that’s unfortunate.
743
00:46:53,540 –> 00:46:57,500
Uh, I always tell everybody, if you’re going to buy USB sticks, if you’re going to buy
744
00:46:57,500 –> 00:47:03,140
micro SDs, uh, cards, stuff like that, try to buy name brand like scan disc and stuff
745
00:47:03,140 –> 00:47:07,780
like that, just because you know, they’re not going to come from this little place in
746
00:47:07,780 –> 00:47:11,020
China that puts viruses and stuff like that on them, because that’s what happens.
747
00:47:11,020 –> 00:47:14,620
A lot of these cheaper sticks, yeah, they’ll work on your machine, but they also infect
748
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your machine.
749
00:47:15,620 –> 00:47:19,180
Um, and I don’t know if a lot of people don’t know that, but that’s kind of a gimmick is
750
00:47:19,180 –> 00:47:23,100
I’ll buy these, these jump drives, infect them with something and they’ll post them
751
00:47:23,100 –> 00:47:26,900
up on Amazon cheaply and hope people will buy them.
752
00:47:26,900 –> 00:47:31,380
That’s a cheap way of me, uh, distributing my virus and an easy way of me building a
753
00:47:31,380 –> 00:47:34,460
botnet for relatively cheaply and I don’t have to worry about hacking or anything like
754
00:47:34,460 –> 00:47:35,460
that.
755
00:47:35,460 –> 00:47:37,140
Just people sticking their USB sticks in.
756
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So very important.
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00:47:38,500 –> 00:47:44,220
Um, also too, uh, I do want to point out too, I made a mistake yesterday and, or the other
758
00:47:44,220 –> 00:47:48,820
day, last week on the podcast and they pointed out to me yesterday, um, Spinrite will actually
759
00:47:48,820 –> 00:47:50,500
work on an Intel based Mac.
760
00:47:50,500 –> 00:47:54,300
I did say that it does not work on Mac and I was wrong.
761
00:47:54,300 –> 00:47:57,420
It works on Intel based Macs.
762
00:47:57,420 –> 00:48:00,820
Uh, but you need the latest version 6.1.
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00:48:00,820 –> 00:48:02,580
So I do want to point that out because that was really important.
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00:48:02,580 –> 00:48:03,860
Somebody did bring that up to my attention.
765
00:48:03,860 –> 00:48:08,300
He said, Hey Steve, on the last couple episodes ago said that it does work on Intel Mac 6.1.
766
00:48:08,300 –> 00:48:11,620
Uh, does not work on M1 Macs, but still works on Intel.
767
00:48:11,620 –> 00:48:15,580
So if you have somebody on Intel Mac that’s having hard drive issues, uh, you could actually
768
00:48:15,580 –> 00:48:16,900
use Spinrite to help them out.
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00:48:16,900 –> 00:48:20,620
So I just wanted to bring that up and, uh, cause I misspoke.
770
00:48:20,620 –> 00:48:24,780
So also too, again, folks, if you do have anything that you want to send in, uh, anything
771
00:48:24,780 –> 00:48:28,700
again, go to brandon@lipanasecurity.com is my email.
772
00:48:28,700 –> 00:48:29,700
Please send it in.
773
00:48:29,700 –> 00:48:31,500
I appreciate all the feedback and I love it.
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00:48:31,500 –> 00:48:33,340
Uh, I want to thank you very much for listening.
775
00:48:33,340 –> 00:48:36,020
I apologize for my voice and not feeling well today.
776
00:48:36,020 –> 00:48:39,580
Um, but like I said, I do want to get the show out because I really enjoyed doing it
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and I felt it was important.
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I want to thank everybody for listening and we will see you on the next episode.
779
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Thank you very much.
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